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A Socratic Seduction: Philosophical Protreptic
in Plato’s Lysis
BENJAMIN A. RIDER
Department of Philosophy and Religion
University of Central Arkansas
brider@uca.edu
Abstract
In Plato’s Lysis, Socrates’ conversation with Lysis (207d – 11c) features logical falla-
cies and questionable premises and closes with a blatantly eristic trick. I show how
the form and content of these arguments make sense if we interpret them from the
perspective of Socrates’ pedagogical goals. Lysis is a competitive teenager who, along
with his friend Menexenus, enjoys the game of eristic disputation. Socrates recognizes
Lysis’ predilections, and he constructs his arguments to engage Lysis’ interests and
loves, while also drawing the boy into thinking philosophically about the issues that
the arguments raise about love, freedom, and happiness.
Keywords: Plato, moral education, protreptic, Socrates, eristic
Plato’s Lysis poses many challenges for an interpreter. Socrates’ arguments
in the dialogue are at times disjointed and fallacious, quite often confus-
ingly abstract and inconclusive. Of course, poorly supported and inconclu-
sive arguments are not uncommon in Plato, but the Lysis seems to have
more than its fair share.
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What is particularly troubling, however, is that
Socrates carries on this discussion with interlocutors who are just about
apeiron, vol. 44, pp. 40 – 66
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George Grote (1888, vol. 2), reports that some prominent German scholars of his
time went so far as to reject Plato’s authorship of the dialogue: ‘Ast and Socher
characterize the dialogue as a tissue of subtle sophistry and eristic contradiction,
such as (in their opinion) Plato cannot have composed’ (184, fn. 2). Others, such
as Schleiermacher and Hermann, although accepting its authenticity, considered it
to be a very early work, marked, as Grote puts it, with the ‘adolescentiae vestigia’
(ibid). Among more recent scholars, both Cornford (n.d.) and Guthrie (1975) give
similarly dim evaluations. ‘Even Plato can nod,’ Guthrie (infamously) wrote of the
dialogue.