This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial- Share Alike 4.0 International License. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by- nc-sa/4.0/ ‘Conversing WITH Materials’ - How do we converse with materials and other beings to co-design equitably? Stainless steel, Mycelium on coffee beans, Mycelium with wood chips, Tissue paper, worked paper. Images: Jane Norris, Elvin Karan, Nithikul Nimkulrat Abstract How do we converse with materials and other beings to co-design equitably? In this conversation, we aimed to host an event that acted as a catalyst to reanimate our mutual relationships with materials. It sought to identify fresh tactics for designing and ‘con- structing’ objects. We offered for consideration two ‘materials-as-co-performers’ of design practice, that operate as team members together with humans. Through activities such as sonic fictional design and performative design, this conversation explored a more-than- human approach to making. During this event, emphasis was placed on listening to materials and considering their intimate performative relationship to us. Questions for discussion were: In what ways can we listen to materials? How do materials inform the hand and mind? How can we co-perform with materials? With this conversation, we sought to start a debate where we begin to map out a nascent material vocabulary relevant to co- making in the Anthropocene. The format of a conversation (rather than an address or lecture) was particularly appropriate for co-producing new understanding and for formulating equitable relationships amongst human and non-human beings. Keywords: More-than-human; Anthropocene; New Materiality; Co-making; outside-of- enlightenment; Decolonizing.