Contents lists available at ScienceDirect
Journal of South American Earth Sciences
journal homepage: www.elsevier.com/locate/jsames
Answer to reply to C. Acosta Hospitaleche and M. Reguero (2020) additional
Pelagornithidae remains from Seymour Island, Antarctica
Carolina Acosta Hospitaleche
a,*
, Marcelo Reguero
a,b
a
División Paleontología de Vertebrados, Museo de La Plata, Facultad de Ciencias Naturales y Museo, Universidad Nacional de La Plata, Paseo del Bosque s/nº,
B1900FWA, La Plata, Argentina, CONICET
b
Instituto Antártico Argentino, 25 de Mayo 1143, San Martín, Argentina
We feel compelled to briefly respond to the reply of Chávez
Hoffmeister and Urbina (2020) about our contribution: Additional Pe-
lagornithidae remains from Seymour Island, Antarctica. The material
IAA-PV 823 they question is housed in the recognized repository of the
Instituto Antártico Argentino, and available for reviews, which is im-
portant to replicate or refute any statement about its assignment.
However, Chávez Hoffmeister and Urbina have chosen to give their
opinion without the prior examination of the fossil. In our experience,
direct observation of the fossil is required to avoid an erroneous in-
terpretation of the structures during a character survey.
Chávez Hoffmeister and Urbina (2020) repeatedly incur in the
practice of trying to study materials only through published images,
using pictures of fishes taken from the bibliography, instead of the di-
rect comparisons with the materials analyzed by Tercerie et al. (2019).
Again, the assignment comparing pictures of the material under study
with pictures of the alleged equivalent fossil is not the best choice and
attempt against a healthy scientific practice.
We believe that it is not worth re-describing the material here.
Instead, we give a pair of examples to illustrate the mistakes they make
when describing materials without examining materials. First, the al-
veoli described by Chávez Hoffmeister and Urbina (2020) are broken
portions of the bone; they could have corroborated it magnifying the
area with a binocular microscope. Also, the lateral foramen that they
assume is covered by not removed sediment, is not present at all in the
material. Even Chávez Hoffmeister and Urbina (2020) recognize the
difficulties they have to verify some features based only on the avail-
able pictures. Nevertheless, they decide to risk and continue with their
review, assigning the material to a perciform. After finding many dif-
ferences in size, general configuration, and other particular features
with Mesetaichthys, they assign IAA-PV 823 to an indeterminate gem-
pylid. According to them, a family reported for the Eocene of Italy and
England and the Oligocene of Rumania., and not in the Southern
Hemisphere. Something we cannot avoid notice is that Chávez
Hoffmeister and Urbina (2020) deliberately ignored the obvious com-
parison with other previously reported Antarctic Pelagornithidae, and
with the innumerable Eocene Pelagornithidae known around the world.
Anyway, and beyond this, we are studying new and more complete
remains from the Eocene of Seymour/Marambio Island, collected
during the last field trip to Antarctica. This new material could help to
better understand the morphological variations of the Antarctic pseudo-
toothed birds and this particular situation.
Declaration of competing interest
The authors declare that there is no conflict of interest.
References
Chávez Hoffmeister, M., Urbina, P., 2020. Reply to C. Acosta Hospitaleche and M.
Reguero (2020) Additional Pelagornithidae Remains from Seymour Island,
Antarctica.
Tercerie, S., Bearez, P., Pruvost, P., Bailly, N., Vignes-Lebbe, R., 2019. Osteobase. World
Wide Web Electronic Publication. osteobase.mnhn.Fr, Version January 2019. Data
Retrieved March 2020.
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jsames.2020.102645
Received 2 May 2020; Accepted 10 May 2020
*
Corresponding author.
E-mail addresses: acostacaro@fcnym.unlp.edu.ar (C. Acosta Hospitaleche), regui@fcnym.unlp.edu.ar (M. Reguero).
Journal of South American Earth Sciences xxx (xxxx) xxxx
0895-9811/ © 2020 Elsevier Ltd. All rights reserved.
Please cite this article as: Carolina Acosta Hospitaleche and Marcelo Reguero, Journal of South American Earth Sciences,
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jsames.2020.102645